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أما الثانية فقد أمرنا لله سبحانه وتعالى أمرا مباشر بالصلاة عليه قائلا " يا أيها الذين آمنوا صلوا عليه وسلموا تسليما" وجائت هذه الآية عقب قوله سبحانه وتعالى " إن الله وملائكته يصلون على النبى" وبالطبع صلاة الله سبحانه وتعالى على النبى غير صلاة الملائكة غير صلاتنا نحن. وفى موضع آخر "هو الذى يصلى عليكم وملائكته ليخركم من الظلمات إلى النور" وطبعا هنا أيضا صلاة الله سبحانه وتعالى وصلاة الملائكة أمرين مختلفين تماما ولكن نخلص من ذلك اننا بالطبع يجوز أن نقول صلى الله عليه وسلم على أى من الرسل ولكن أنظر أن الله سبحانه وتعالى لم يختص بالأمر المباشر إلى الرسول عليه الصلاة والسلام وسيدنا ابراهيم أيضا بالمثل ولا عجب أن هذا ما نردده فى التشهد أنظر قول الله سبحانه وتعالى فى سورة هود 73 قَالُواْ أَتَعْجَبِينَ مِنْ أَمْرِ اللّهِ رَحْمَتُ اللّهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ عَلَيْكُمْ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ إِنَّهُ حَمِيدٌ مَّجِيدٌ
أنظر إلى الصيغة فى قوله إنه حميد مجيد هذا بالظبط ما نردده فى التشهد خلال الصلاة إذن هذا أيضا أمر مباشر من الله إذن فنحن أمام أمر مباشر بذلك
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اما عن نقطة عدم التفريق بين الرسل كما قال الله سبحانه وتعالى فى كتابة فالتفرقة هنا ليست فى التبجيل أو الاحترام ولكن فى الايمان بهم جميعا
بأن كل منهم جاء برسالة من الله سبحانه وتعالى ولاحظ أن الله سبحانه وتعالى قال لا نفرق بين أحد من رسله وليس رسله وأنبياءه وهذا يعنى الرسل الذين جاءوا بكتب من الله
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. أما عن الاحترام والتبجيل فانظر إلى الله سبحانه وتعالى هو ذاته وضع كل منهم فى مكان فقد اختص موسى بكلامه واختص عيسى بإحياء الموتى وشفاء المرضى كما استجاب لدعوة سليمان وجعل له ملكا لا ينبغى لأحد من بعده.
إذن قد جعل الله سبحانه وتعالى لكل منهم ميزة خاصة به
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ثم اختص الرسول عليه الصلاة والسلام بمنزلة أخرى تمثلت فى توليه إمامة الصلاة بهم فى المسجد الأقصى. وهذا له دلاله هامة وسبب هام ألا وهو إشارة بضرورة اتبعاه هو بوصفه إمامهم. إن شريعة كل منهم التى لا نفرق بين أى منها حيث أنها كلها جائت تدعو إلى الله الواحد الأحد وإلى الاسلام قد نسخت بشريعة من جاء بعده أى لا ينبغى العمل بها بعد ما جاء بعده الرسول الآخر حتى نصل إلى النبى الخاتم الذى ينبغى علينا اتباعه هو فقط وهذا تمثل فى أمر الله سبحانه وتعالى باتباعه فى القرآن وأمره لنا بحبه وتبجيله لأن من أحب شخصا حرص على تقليده فى كل شئ وهذا هو المطلوب.
والله أعلم
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لا أدرى إن كنت قد أضفت شيئا إن أصبت فمن الله سبحانه وتعالى وإن أخطأت فمن نفسى والشيطان أعاذنا الله منه
وإن شاء الله إذا تبادر إلى ذهنى شئ آخر أقوم بالتعليق عليه ومعذرة على طول الرسالة
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بسم الله
السلام عليكم اخى الكريم
أولا وقبل أن استمر فى هذه المهمة أود أن استطلع الغرض من اتصال حضرتك بى وإثارة هذه النقط معى
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هذا أولا وثانيا
ومعذرة إذا كانت اللغة لن تسعفنى وتعبر تعبيرا صحيحا عما أود أن اقوله وبرجاء عدم إخذ التعليق بصورة غير لائقة حضرتك من النوعية التى تحب الجدل وكما هو معلوم لدينا فى الأحاديث الشريفة اننا نهينا عن الجدل بمعنى أن حضرتك تأخذ كل جملة وترد عليها سواء كان الرد منطقى أو لا لمجرد توفير الرد وهذا هو الجدل
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وأيضاحا لهذه النقطة أنت أطلت فى الرد على أول نقطة وهى فرض الصلاة فى رحلة المعراج ووفرت الآيات التى تدل على وجوب الصلاة على من هم قبلنا وفرض الصلاة على الأمم السابقة وفاتك مثلا أن تأتى بآية أداء مريم للصلاة
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أخى كل هذا معلوم لدينا بل والأكثر منه أن الرسول صلى لله عليه وسلم كان يتعبد علىملة ابراهيم ويصلى على ملة ابراهيم
ولكن لم يكن هذا هو حال العرب عند بداية الرسالة بل كانوا يصلون لللآلهه والأصنام كما هو معلوم لدينا وبالتالى لم تكن الصلاة بمفمهوها المعلوم لدينا قد فرضت فرضا أى ركنا من أركان الآسلام على المسلمين وهذا ما حدث فى رحلة المعراج ولكن حضرتك فضلت أن تطيل وتأتى بالآيات وتبدأ بأنا آسف يا اختى وتنتقل من آية لأخرى لا لغرض الا فقط لأن تأتى بحجة
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ونحن عندمانتحدث فى أمر علينا أن نخلص النية لله سبحانه وتعالى لا لاستعراض العلم وهذا أمر آخر لاحظته أن حضرتك مفتون بعلمك وانت لا تخفى ذلك بل أعلنته صراحة على المنتدىحينا قلت لى أنك متواضعة ولكن أنا عندى علم
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حذار يا أخى فهذا مدخل خطير من مداخل الشيطان والله وحده يعلم بنيتى وأنا أقول لك هذا الكلام حذار يا اخى لا تجعل الشيطان يفتنك بعلمك ولك فى قصة موسى والعبد فى سورة الكهف عظة ومثلا
والى اللقاء ان شاء الله
وتقبل الله منا ومنك الطاعات
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The Isra wa Miraj hadith is one of the biggest obvious splinters in the Sunni doctrine.
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Years ago this was one of the first issues that sent alarm bells ringing in my head with traditionalist beliefs. I was suspicious as soon as I first read it.
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Also, this issue in particular can be refuted from SO MANY angles it's unbelievable coverers still have the gall, nay, the arrogance to defend the undefendable. It's so easy to show this issue up with the Qur'an, and yet it's impossible to defend such blasphemous views astaghfirullah.
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We can firstly refute the authenticity of the hadith itself due to its sheer size, transmission, occurrence and collection;
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we can also refute it with what happens to souls when they die i.e. the issue that all the messengers were praying behind the Prophet (saw), and most importantly we can refute the heinous blasphemy this hadith is sending out, the list goes on and on and on.
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while I don't deny the Miracle of Israa and Miraj, however I found a lot of fairy tales has been attached to it
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Of course mate, even Rashad Khlifah made up a story about a dream he had based on that hadith, that all prophet came to him and sort of praised him, what a load of non sense man
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It's enough for me to believe that Allah asraa bi Mohammad from Al Masjid Al Haram to Al Masjid Al Aqsa then He araj him to the heaven to show him some of His miracles so his belief in his mission is soldified. That's all and no more.
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I actually have no problem in believing this story that Mohammad was an Imam to them while they prayed in Al Masjid Al Aqsa, however there is no outcome for me as a result of believing in that story
well, if a group will pray together, someone must be an Imam for them, normally the Imam is the most knowledgable one in them, and why not that Mohammad was the most knoweldgable in Islam at the time, makes sense to me that he was the most knowledgable (remember, the knowledge is from Allah)
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but I'm not going to use that hadith to suggest that Mohammad is in a higher level than the rest of the prophets because this matter only belongs to Allah, He deffrentiats between His prophets and messnegers the way He wishes, humans has nothing to do with that, on the other hand He ordered us at least 3 times in the Quran to make no distinction between all of His messengers and prophets
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A quick note dear brother, if you are going to say "Salla Allah ala Mohammad" after Mohammad name, please put the name of Allah complete and don't follow the sunni footeseps by abbraviating it to the letter A while you put the name Mohammad complete, just an advice bro, it really hurts me when I see Muslim doing that
You may say that the letter a in (saw) is representing "ala" and not Allah, , this will make it even worse mate, you totally elimintaed Allah from the sentence while Mohammad stayed
I say as a safety net, not to write it and just say it in your heart and mind when you write the name Mohammad or any other prophet and messenger
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while I don't deny the Miracle of Israa and Miraj, however I found a lot of fairy tales has been attached to it
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Of course, it's in the Qur'an after all.
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Of course mate, even Rashad Khlifah made up a story about a dream he had based on that hadith, that all prophet came to him and sort of praised him, what a load of non sense man
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!!! My Goodness! That's new news to me mate, scary, have his followers given any explanation to this?
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It's enough for me to believe that Allah asraa bi Mohammad from Al Masjid Al Haram to Al Masjid Al Aqsa then He araj him to the heaven to show him some of His miracles so his belief in his mission is soldified. That's all and no more.
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I actually have no problem in believing this story that Mohammad was an Imam to them while they prayed in Al Masjid Al Aqsa, however there is no outcome for me as a result of believing in that story
well, if a group will pray together, someone must be an Imam for them, normally the Imam is the most knowledgable one in them, and why not that Mohammad was the most knoweldgable in Islam at the time, makes sense to me that he was the most knowledgable (remember, the knowledge is from Allah)
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This isn't the main point of the issue, the issue is what the other prophets were doing there in the first place if in fact they were dead. Lame excuses for this issue are given by dogmatists.
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but I'm not going to use that hadith to suggest that Mohammad is in a higher level than the rest of the prophets because this matter only belongs to Allah, He deffrentiats between His prophets and messnegers the way He wishes, humans has nothing to do with that, on the other hand He ordered us at least 3 times in the Quran to make no distinction between all of His messengers and prophets
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Excatly, another reason for this hadith raising suspicion.
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A quick note dear brother, if you are going to say "Salla Allah ala Mohammad" after Mohammad name, please put the name of Allah complete and don't follow the sunni footeseps by abbraviating it to the letter A while you put the name Mohammad complete, just an advice bro, it really hurts me when I see Muslim doing that
You may say that the letter a in (saw) is representing "ala" and not Allah, , this will make it even worse mate, you totally elimintaed Allah from the sentence while Mohammad stayed
I say as a safety net, not to write it and just say it in your heart and mind when you write the name Mohammad or any other prophet and messenger
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on this issue, I've been told saying Salla Allahu Alayhi wa Sallam is prescribed in the Qur'an after saying the Prophet's name,
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I haven't come across it though, have you read it?
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A point on this issue, if it is prescribed, perhaps we can add the Arabic (s. Allahu a.ws.) GIF to our smileys because of this issue as well as Alayhi Salam...
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but I'm not going to use that hadith to suggest that Mohammad is in a higher level than the rest of the prophets because this matter only belongs to Allah, He deffrentiats between His prophets and messnegers the way He wishes, humans has nothing to do with that, on the other hand He ordered us at least 3 times in the Quran to make no distinction between all of His messengers and prophets
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we can't elmintae the possibilty that it the Israa and Miraj is also a dream, but one of those that is true, like the one Yusuf had and told his father about it
Sure, however if we consider that it might have been a truthful dream then why not? rememebr it was decribed in the Quran as "Roaya" which is an arbic words that also refer to dreams.
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it does not exist in the Quran bro
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The Holy Prophet of Islam (pbuh) is also the Seal of Authority of All the Prophets
past, present, and future. If Jesus, or the Imam, or the Mahdi, reappears, he must
first receive his Authority fom the Holy Prophet.
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Must be one of those new generation hadiths bluffing around.
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