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AhmedBahgat Site Admin
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Sunni are the ones that follow the ways of the Prophet Muhammad SAW.
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Hello all
Can you see the shirk by the sunni Muslims see what they always write:
the Prophet Muhammad SAW.
there are two names mentioned above which is sort of shirk:
Muhammad
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Allah
cCan you see how they write the full name of Mohammad preceeded by the Prophet but they are lazy to write the name Allah and only put A letter instead?
No wonder they are damn confused
Salam _________________ http://free-islam.com |
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Tue 06 Feb, 2007 10:21 am |
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Life Pawn
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Salam Bro,
Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) this is something I was taught at school and at that time there were only two beliefs which were apparent in our society suni/shia. Im sure nowadays if you blame/ask anyone about SAW they will certainly say, oooo! this is not us but xyz group who says so.
The people who call themselves well educated have made muslims a football and islam a football field. Whoever wants and whereever they want, they just kick the ball
Btw, A stands for Allah and the other S,W (SAW) ?? |
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Tue 06 Feb, 2007 10:49 am |
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SlaveofAllaah Site Admin
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Even i have been thought, dont tell me you dont know its Sala Allaah alayhi was salam. its goest May peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him.
This is what, it means, its just a sought of respect. Infact as far as i know we add May peace be upon him for all other Prophets, Sahabas and respected scholars.
But sometimes i feel, we say May peace be upon them and they are in Paradise we need more peace .
Hey, if i say the aforementioned stuff in Indo-Pak, i will be called a kafir.
I do agree with brother AB, i feel you write long love letters as well as take time to write long articles but why write SAW.
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Tue 06 Feb, 2007 5:24 pm |
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AhmedBahgat Site Admin
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Hello all
fine bro but at least right the name Allah, and when the name Allah then we should say "Subhanahu Wa Talaa"
so it sould go like this in Mohammad or any other prophet is mentione
Mohammad "Salla Allah (Sunahanahu Wa Talaa) Allaihi"
or
Ibrahim "Salla Allah (Sunahanahu Wa Talaa) Allaihi"
I donlt agree that Allah Sallam Alaihi becase the verse says "Sallimu Allaihi Taslima", i.e. it is us who do the Taslim not Allah
Just my 2c
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Tue 06 Feb, 2007 5:31 pm |
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SlaveofAllaah Site Admin
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i agree, with you to tell you the truth I had an argument with my uncle 3 months a ago, I told him we write long love letters as well as detailed company proposals but to write completely we are so lazy.
He got back to me and told the one who writes an articles and writes the name of Prophet is it feasible. so i thought forget all these i got a small picture which says in Arabic Sala Allaah alayhi wa salam. khallas. |
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Tue 06 Feb, 2007 5:57 pm |
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AhmedBahgat Site Admin
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Actually bro if we look at the verse again we will read clearly that the order was for the believers to Salla and Sallim ala Mohammad, Not Allah
however the way we say it it means that Allah is the one who is doing it, do you get my point?
sound a bit strange bro _________________ http://free-islam.com |
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Tue 06 Feb, 2007 6:00 pm |
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SlaveofAllaah Site Admin
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AhmedBahgat wrote:
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Hello all
fine bro but at least right the name Allah, and when the name Allah then we should say "Subhanahu Wa Talaa"
so it sould go like this in Mohammad or any other prophet is mentione
Mohammad "Salla Allah (Sunahanahu Wa Talaa) Allaihi"
or
Ibrahim "Salla Allah (Sunahanahu Wa Talaa) Allaihi"
I donlt agree that Allah Sallam Alaihi becase the verse says "Sallimu Allaihi Taslima", i.e. it is us who do the Taslim not Allah
Just my 2c
Take care all
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explain to me the last sentence. please.
Well for the Sala Allaahi alayhi wa sallam, we have to know did the companions of the Prophet respect him this way, and did the Prophet objected on this or not.
Well, i know the Prophet was Rasoolallaah, and thats why i like the best to be use.
Just want to know the acceptability of this, or is this an innovation |
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Tue 06 Feb, 2007 6:01 pm |
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Salam Bro,
Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) this is something I was taught at school and at that time there were only two beliefs which were apparent in our society suni/shia. Im sure nowadays if you blame/ask anyone about SAW they will certainly say, oooo! this is not us but xyz group who says so.
The people who call themselves well educated have made muslims a football and islam a football field. Whoever wants and whereever they want, they just kick the ball
Btw, A stands for Allah and the other S,W (SAW) ??
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Hello mate, sorry I missed you comment
my issue is not to say it, my issue to write Allah full name and not abbreviated it to a letter while noot doing that with the name Mohammad
S = Salla
W = Wa Sallim
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Tue 06 Feb, 2007 6:01 pm |
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AhmedBahgat Site Admin
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SlaveofAllaah wrote:
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AhmedBahgat wrote:
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Hello all
fine bro but at least we should write the name Allah, and when the name Allah is mentioned then we should say "Subhanahu Wa Talaa"
so it sould go like this if Mohammad or any other prophet is mentioned
Mohammad "Salla Allah (Sunahanahu Wa Talaa) Allaihi"
or
Ibrahim "Salla Allah (Sunahanahu Wa Talaa) Allaihi"
I don't agree that Allah Sallam Alaihi becase the verse says "Sallimu Allaihi Taslima", i.e. it is us who do the Taslim not Allah
Just my 2c
Take care all
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explain to me the last sentence. please.
Well for the Sala Allaahi alayhi wa sallam, we have to know did the companions of the Prophet respect him this way, and did the Prophet objected on this or not.
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Hey mate
I found the verse an order that we Salli and sallim Ala Mohammad, the way we say it means, that Allah is the one who is doing it, which sounds a bit confusing because the order was for us to do it, not to recite that Allah does it, do you get my point?
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Well, i know the Prophet was Rasoolallaah, and thats why i like the best to be use.
Just want to know the acceptability of this, or is this an innovation
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I beleiev it is an innovation through Abu Hurairah, not 100% sure, but I don't think that the prophet was ordering us to praise him that much
Take care _________________ http://free-islam.com
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Tue 06 Feb, 2007 6:04 pm |
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SlaveofAllaah Site Admin
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When i was young someone told me please tell the Sala Allaah alayhi wa sallam everytime you hear the name of Prophet otherwise you will go to hell fire.
But then it was blind follow, i will probably try to look more into it. Thanks brother.
Please do explain to me also are the non-muslims allowed to enter Medina and Makkah.
I agree non-muslims are not allowed to enter within the boundary of the Holy Kaaba as mentioned in the Quran. |
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Tue 06 Feb, 2007 6:10 pm |
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AhmedBahgat Site Admin
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SlaveofAllaah wrote:
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When i was young someone told me please tell the Sala Allaah alayhi wa sallam everytime you hear the name of Prophet otherwise you will go to hell fire.
But then it was blind follow, i will probably try to look more into it. Thanks brother.
Please do explain to me also are the non-muslims allowed to enter Medina and Makkah.
I agree non-muslims are not allowed to enter within the boundary of the Holy Kaaba as mentioned in the Quran.
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I'm following blindly too bro, I hope it is not shirk, yes we need to invistigate the matter, I will try to find all the hadith that relates to it
I believe the Saudis are being extreme to prevent the kafirs from entering Mecca, the order that they don't enter the Haram only
but as you know bro, the government of SA can't be trusted really
Take care _________________ http://free-islam.com |
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Tue 06 Feb, 2007 6:18 pm |
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okay frendz...i got 2 questions here:
1. 2 names are mentioned....right....but how does that amount to shirk?
2. what do peepz here think about [color = green]33:56[/color]....what does the verse imply? |
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Thu 08 Feb, 2007 11:52 pm |
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okay frendz...i got 2 questions here:
1. 2 names are mentioned....right....but how does that amount to shirk?
2. what do peepz here think about [color = green]33:56[/color]....what does the verse imply?
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Hello bro
I believe but not wrinting Allah name in full, they have put Mohammad in higher level
also why I have to keep mentioning Mohammad name next to Allah name?
take care _________________ http://free-islam.com |
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Fri 09 Feb, 2007 12:04 am |
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ahmedbahgat wrote:
I believe but not wrinting Allah name in full, they have put Mohammad in higher level
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# okay...i see ur point there bro! but personally i m not sure if that's shirk!
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also why I have to keep mentioning Mohammad name next to Allah name?
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# yes....that's a good question bro...
i ve been thiking about 33:56 lately and i m not sure what to make of it...what do u think about it bro? (-:
# salam mate! (-: |
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Fri 09 Feb, 2007 12:18 am |
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AhmedBahgat Site Admin
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ahmedbahgat wrote:
I believe but not wrinting Allah name in full, they have put Mohammad in higher level
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# okay...i see ur point there bro! but personally i m not sure if that's shirk!
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also why I have to keep mentioning Mohammad name next to Allah name?
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# yes....that's a good question bro...
i ve been thiking about 33:56 lately and i m not sure what to make of it...what do u think about it bro? (-:
# salam mate! (-:
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Ok bro let me rephrase my claim then
I believe their action of prasing Mohammad along with Allah is motivated by their shirk
for them to take laws from other humans like bukhari and abu hurairah is shirk therefore theiir action in excesivly praising mohamad is motivated by shirk
I will look at 33:56 tomorrow inshallah
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Fri 09 Feb, 2007 12:21 am |
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